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It is 100% certain you're headed for Hell ...
for rejecting the Catholic Dogma ...
Warning: There are no bishops or priests in these times
1. The Original Sin of Adam closed Heaven for all men (sanctifying grace was lost) ... Hell became the only possible destination for the immortal souls of men.
7. One can still be Catholic and get to Heaven with a proper baptism in water
[Section 7] ... believing the Dogmas ... and keeping free from mortal sin. [Section 10.1]
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Answering the question: How did Old Testament people get to Heaven
It was two steps ...
1. They go to the Limbo Section of Hell ... instead of the Hell of
2. Be Baptized in water to remit Original Sin and actual sins
Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Ecclesiasticus 24:44
Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Jeremias 31:33 ~ ~ ~
Introduction:
1. Many people like to question the Catholic Salvation Dogma ... that only Catholics can get to Heaven ... by asking about the souls of those who lived in Old Testament times.
2. To be in a spiritual state where the Old Testament person descends to the Limbo section of Hell (Limbus Patrum, Limbo of the Fathers) ... instead of the Hell of the damned a person must ...
3. If the person went to the Limbo Section of Hell after dying in Old Testament times ... then the person did receive water Baptism after the Catholic Jesus Christ descended into Hell on Good Friday following the Crucifixion.
4. Water Baptism was instituted for those in Limbo section of Hell. Water Baptism is required to remit Orignal Sin ... Sources of Dogma listed on Section 1.1.
5. Sub-part D ... lists scriptures and citations on the instituting of water Baptism in Hell ... for the Old Testament righteous. The Old Testament un-just are still in Hell and will be forever.
This Section includes ...
Sub-part A: Old Testament writings of the Catholic Church (unfulfilled) ... that God writes the law on men's hearts (places it into souls).
Sub-part B: Old Testament writings of the Catholic Church (unfulfilled) ... regarding the future Messiah.
Sub-part C: Original Sin closed Heaven for the souls of men ... until the Redemption by the Catholic Jesus Christ. Water Baptism is required to remit Original Sin.
Sub-part D: The Catholic Jesus Christ instituted water Baptism to the Old Testament righteous in the Limbo section of Hell.
S u b - p a r t A Old Testament writings of the Catholic Church (unfulfilled) ... that God writes the law on men's hearts (places it into souls) ~ ~ ~
Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Ecclesiasticus 24:44, 46, 47 > Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Job 33:28-30 > 28: "He hath delivered his soul from going into destruction, that it may live and see the light." 29: "Behold, all these things God worketh three times within every one." 30: "That he may withdraw their souls from corruption, and enlighten them with the light of the living." Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Isaias 11:9 > "For the earth is filled with the knowledge of the Lord, as the covering waters of the sea." Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Proverbs 22:20 > "Behold I have described it to thee three manner of ways, in thoughts and knowledge." Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Isaias 40:21 > "Do you not know? Hath it not been heard? Hath it not been told you from the beginning?" Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Wisdom 6:24 > "I will not hide from you the mysteries of God, but will seek her out from the beginning of her birth, and bring the knowledge of her to light, and will not pass over the truth." Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Psalm 118:4-5 > 4: Thou hast commanded thy commandments to be kept most diligently." 5: O! that my ways may be directed to keep thy justifications." Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Sophonias 1:3, 6 > "I will destroy men from off the face of the land, saith the Lord. (...) Them that turn away from following after the Lord, and that have not sought the Lord, nor searched after Him." Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Ecclesiasticus 21:11 > "The way of sinners is made plain with stones, and in their end is Hell, and darkness, and pains." Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Wisdom 1:7 > "For the Spirit of the Lord hath filled the whole world: and that, which containeth all things, hath knowledge of the voice." Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Psalm 18:8 > "The law of the Lord is unspotted, converting souls." Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Jeremias 31:33 > "But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel, after those days, saith the Lord: I will give my law ... and I will write it in their heart." Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Osee 4:6 > "My people have been silent, because they had no knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will reject thee ... thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I also will forget thy children." Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Proverbs 2:5, 9 > 5: Then shalt thou understand the fear of the Lord, and shalt find the knowledge of God." 9: Then shalt thou understand justice, and judgment, and equity, and every good path." Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Psalm 118:12-13 > 12: "Blessed art thou, O Lord: teach me thy justifications." 13: "With my lips I have pronounced all the judgments of thy mouth." Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Job 21:14 > Who have said to God: Depart from us, we desire not the knowledge of thy ways." Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Isaias 59:1 > "Behold the hand of the Lord is not shortened that it cannot save." Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Wisdom 14:22 > "And it was not enough for them to err about the knowledge of God, but whereas they lived in a great war of ignorance, they call so many and so great evils peace." Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Psalm 127:1-2 > 1: "Blessed are all they that fear the Lord: that walk in his ways." 2: "For thou shalt eat the labours of thy hands: blessed art thou, and it shall be well with thee."
S u b - p a r t B Old Testament writings of the Catholic Church (unfulfilled) ... regarding the future Messiah ~ ~ ~
Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Job 19:25 >
Note 1: The word ... Redeemer means the One who re-opens Heaven for men's souls after it was closed by Original Sin.
Note 2: The Redeemer is also ... the One who makes it so men can be the children of God again ... but only those people who apply the Redemption to their souls in the one way prescribed by God ... water baptism and believing the Catholic Dogma whole and inviolate. Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Isaias 49:26 > "And all flesh shall know, that I am the Lord that save thee, and thy Redeemer." Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of 2 Kings 23:1-2 > 1: "Now these are David' s last words. David the son of Isai said: The man to whom it was appointed concerning the Christ of the God of Jacob, the excellent psalmist of Israel said." 2: "The spirit of the Lord hath spoken by me and his word by my tongue." Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Sophonius 3:8 > "Expect Me, saith the Lord, in the day of My resurrection that is to come ... to assemble the Gentiles, and to gather the kingdoms." Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Isaias 59:20 > "And there shall come a, Redeemer to Sion, and to them that return from iniquity in Jacob, saith the Lord." Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Daniel 9:25 > Know thou therefore, and take notice: that from the going forth of the word, to build up Jerusalem again, unto Christ the prince, there shall be seven weeks, and sixty-two weeks." Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Proverbs 30:4 > "Who hath ascended up into Heaven, and descended? Who hath held the wind in His hands? Who hath bound up the waters together as in a garment? Who hath raised up all the borders of the earth? What is His name, and what is the name of His Son, if thou knowest?" Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Daniel 9:26 > "And after sixty-two weeks Christ shall be slain: and the people that shall deny him shall not be his. And a people with their leader that shall come, shall destroy the city and the sanctuary: and the end thereof shall be waste, and after the end of the war the appointed desolation." Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Isaias 7:14 > "Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign. Behold a virgin shall conceive, and bear a Son, and His name shall be called Emmanuel."
Note 1: The un-baptized pagans who call themselves jews often say the word "virgin" in this scripture should be "young woman" ... but guess what, how much of "a sign" would that be?
Note 2: The word ... Emmanuel means ... God with us. Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Habacuc 3:13 > "Thou wentest forth for the salvation of thy people: for salvation with thy Christ." Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Wisdom 18:15 > "Thy almighty Word leapt down from Heaven from Thy royal throne, as a fierce conqueror into the midst of the land of destruction." Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Wisdom 2:18 > "For if He be the true Son of God, He will defend Him, and will deliver Him from the hands of His enemies." Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Psalm 2:2 > "The kings of the earth stood up, and the princes met together, against the Lord and against His Christ." Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Psalm 18:7-8 > 7: "His going out is from the end of Heaven, And His circuit even to the end thereof: and there is no one that can hide himself from His heat." 8: "The law of the Lord is unspotted, converting souls: the testimony of the Lord is faithful, giving wisdom to little ones."
Note: The law of the Lord is the Catholic De Fide Dogma and the Sources of Dogma.
Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Psalm 83:10 > Behold, O God our protector: and look on the face of thy Christ." Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Ezechiel 44:2 > "And the Lord said to me: This gate shall be shut, it shall not be opened, and no man shall pass through it: because the Lord the God of Israel hath entered in by it, and it shall be shut."
Note: Prophesy of the Incarnation of Christ of/by the Holy Spirit and the Ever Sinless Virgin.
Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Wisdom 2:18 > "For if He be the true Son of God, He will defend Him, and will deliver Him from the hands of His enemies."
S u b - p a r t C Original Sin closed Heaven for the souls of men ... until the Redemption by the Catholic Jesus Christ Water Baptism is required to remit Original Sin (Many more scriptures ... on the Introduction section of this site) ~ ~ ~
Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Ecclesiastes 9:3 > Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Psalm 88:49 > "Who is the man that shall live, and not see death: that shall deliver his soul from the hand of Hell ?" Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Job 14:4 > "Who can make him clean that is conceived of unclean seed ? Is it not Thou who only art?" Council of Florence, Session 11, Pope Eugene IV, 1442 A.D. -- Ex-Cathedra Dogma > "It firmly believes, professes and preaches that never was anyone, conceived by a man and a woman, liberated from the devil's dominion except by faith in our Lord Jesus Christ, the mediator between God and humanity, who was conceived without sin, was born and died. He alone by his death overthrew the enemy of the human race, cancelling our sins, and unlocked the entrance to the Heavenly Kingdom, which the first man by his sin had locked against himself and all his posterity." - - - -
Note 1: Additional Scriptures regarding Heaven being (temporarily) closed ... on the Introduction of this site.
Note 2: Additional Sources of Dogma on the Redemption (the re-opening of Heaven) ... on Section 81 of this site.
S u b - p a r t D The Catholic Jesus Christ instituted water Baptism to the Old Testament righteous in the Limbo section of Hell ~ ~ ~
Saint Irenaeus, Against Heresies, Book 4, Chapter 27, Paragraph 2, 180 A.D. >
Note 1: Jesus descent into the Limbo section of Hell ... to teach the Old Testament righteous "there also" (in Hell).
Note 2: Regarding the text ... remitted sins in the same way ... this would be water Baptism.
Note 3: Jesus instituted water Baptism in Hell, to free those in the state of Original Sin. Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Ezechiel 36:25-26 > 25: "And I will pour upon you clean water, and you shall be cleansed from all your filthiness, and I will cleanse you from all your idols." 26: "And I will give you a new heart, and put a new spirit within you."
Note 1: Those in ... Old Testament times ... being told of water Baptism cleaning them (Old Testament righteous) from Original Sin and actual sin.
Note 2: For Note 1 ... to take place the Catholic Jesus Christ must have instituted water Baptism in Hell when Jesus descended there. Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Numbers 19:20 > "If any man be not expiated after this rite, his soul shall perish out of the midst of the Church: because he hath profaned the sanctuary of the Lord, and was not sprinkled with the water of purification."
Note 1: This Old Testament scripture ... identifies the future water Baptism for the remission of sins.
Note 2: Numbers 19:20 ... clearly connects justification of the soul ... with the waters of Baptism. Catholic writing of Ephesians 4:8-9 > "Wherefore He saith: Ascending on high, He led captivity captive; He gave gifts to men." "Now that He ascended, what is it, but because He also descended first into the lower parts of the earth ?"
Note 1: He led captivity captive ... that is the Catholic Jesus Christ released from Hell the Old Testament righteous..
Note 2: He gave gifts to men ... ensuring they were Baptized in water ... so that they could enter Heaven. Catholic writing of Saint Matthew 12:40 > "For as Jonas was in the whale's belly three days and three nights: so shall the Son of Man be in the heart of the earth three days and three nights."
Note 1: So that the Paradise ... that the Catholic Jesus Christ was referring to ... to the Good Thief was not Heaven. Jesus descended into Hell where he instituted water Baptism for the Old Testament righteous.
Note 2: The Good Thief did not go to Heaven ... without water Baptism. Clement of Alexandria, Stromata, Book 2, Chapter 9, 200 A.D. > "They fell asleep in righteousness and in great purity, but wanted only this seal."
Note 1: Old Testament righteous ... falling asleep (dying) in purity ... but lacked the seal, so could not enter Heaven.
Note 2: Jesus Christ descended into Hell ... to instantiate that which was lacking ... water Baptism. Saint Cyril of Jerusalem, Catechetical Lecture XIV, 4th Century > "Death was struck with dismay on beholding a new Visitor descend into Hades, not bound by the chains of that place. The Holy Prophets ran unto Him, and Moses the Lawgiver, and Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob; David also, and Samuel, and Esaias, and John the Baptist. All the Just were ransomed, whom death had swallowed; for it behooved the King whom they had proclaimed, to become the Redeemer of His noble heralds."
Note 1: Jesus' descent into Hell ... to instantiate water Baptism ... for the Old Testament righteous who were in the Limbo section of Hell.
Note 2: The word Redeemer means ... the One who re-opens Heaven, after it was closed by Original Sin. The Catholic Jesus Christ is the sole Redeemer of mankind, see Section 81 Sub-part A. Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Osee 6:2 > "He will revive us after two days: on the third day He will raise us up, and we shall live in His sight."
Note 1: Jesus descent into Hell ... raising up those who were still in the state of Original Sin ... having died in Old Testament times.
Note 2: Regarding the text ... we shall live in His sight ... all that was lacking to the Old Testament righteous was the seal (water Baptism). Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Numbers 19:13 > "Because he was not sprinkled with the water of expiation, he shall be unclean, and his uncleanness shall remain upon him."
Note 1: This Old Testament scripture ... identifies the future water Baptism for the remission of sins.
Note 2: Numbers 19:13 ... clearly connects justification of the soul ... with the waters of Baptism. Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of 1 Peter 3:19 > "In which also coming He preached to those spirits that were in prison."
Note 1: Jesus' descent into Hell ... to the souls (spirits) in prison.
Note 2: Jesus would have taught water Baptism to these souls (spirits) ... as they died unbaptized in the state of Original Sin. Saint Irenaeus, Against Heresies, Book 3, Chapter 22, 180 A.D. > "For the Lord, having been born the first-begotten of the dead, and receiving into His bosom the ancient fathers, has regenerated them into the life of God, He having been made Himself the beginning of those that live, as Adam became the beginning of those who die."
Note 1: Jesus descent into the Limbo section of Hell to teach ... the ancient fathers of the Old Testament.
Note 2: The regeneration that Irenaeus was writing of ... is water Baptism that Jesus instituted in the Limbo section of Hell. Catholic writing of 1 Peter 4:6 > "For, for this cause was the gospel preached also to the dead: that they might be judged indeed according to men, in the flesh; but may live according to God, in the Spirit."
Note 1: Water Baptism being preached ... to the dead.
Note 2: Regarding the text ... in the flesh ... the teaching of water Baptism to the dead ... was identical to the teaching to those in the flesh (still living in the world). Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Ephesians 5:26 > "That he might sanctify it, cleansing it by the laver of water in the word of life."
Note 1: Regarding the word ... it ... this is the Catholic Church. The Church is cleansed by water, the water of Baptism.
Note 2: The righteous of the Old Testament ... are in fact water Baptized into the Catholic Church.
Note 3: The Catholic Jesus Christ ... instituted water Baptism when He descended into Hell to that ... the whole Church is cleansed in the same way. Catholic writing of Matthew 27:51-53 > 51: And behold the veil of the temple was rent in two from the top even to the bottom, and the earth quaked, and the rocks were rent. 52: And the graves were opened: and many bodies of the saints that had slept arose. 53: And coming out of the tombs after his resurrection, came into the Holy City, and appeared to many.
Note 1: The graves were open to pursue water Baptism ... if not already baptized in the Limbo section of Hell.
Note 2: The Old Testament righteous could not get to Heaven without water Baptism.
Catholic writing of Apocalypse 7:3-4 > "Saying: Hurt not the earth, nor the sea, nor the trees, till we sign the servants of our God in their foreheads." And I heard the number of them that were signed, an hundred forty-four thousand were signed, of every tribe of the children of Israel."
Note 1: Regarding the words ... till we sign the servants of our God ... this is water Baptism, it also says there were multiple agents doing the water Baptisms.
Note 2: The Old Testament righteous ... had water Baptism instantiated ... upon the descent into Hell of the Catholic Jesus Christ.
Note 3: The 144,000 was a number representing the number of the Old Testament righteous. Saint Ephrem (309-373 A.D.), Nisibene Hymns, Hymns 36, Part 11 > "And the voice of our Lord sounded into Hell, and He cried aloud and burst the graves one by one. Tremblings took hold on death; Hell that never of old had been lighted up, into it there flashed splendors, from the Watchers (Angels) who entered in and brought out the dead to meet Him, who was dead and gives life to all."
Note 1: Jesus' descent into Hell ... giving life (water Baptism) to the Old Testament righteous.
Note 2: The dead who were brought out to meet Jesus ... were the Old Testament righteous, not those in the Hell of the damned. Saint Athanasius, Discourse 3, Against the arians, Chapter 29, Paragraph 56 > "Nor is it lawful to say that the Lord was in terror, at whom the keepers of Hell's gates shuddered and set open Hell, and the graves did gape (open), and many bodies of the Saints arose and appeared to their own people."
Note 1: Jesus' descent into Hell ... the Saints (Old Testament righteous) arose ... to their people in the world.
Note 2: These Saints would have had ... water baptism in the Limbo section of Hell or in the world after they arose. Hippolytus of Rome, Commentary on Luke Chapter 23, c. 202 A.D. > "For this reason the warders of Hades trembled when they saw Him ... the Only-begotten entered, a Soul among souls, God the Word with a (human) soul."
Note: Jesus' descent into Hell ... to instantiate water Baptism ... for the Old Testament righteous who were in the Limbo section of Hell.
Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Psalm 50:4 > > ""Wash me yet more from my iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin."
Note: Jesus' descent into Hell ... to instantiate water Baptism ... foretold by King David (who was an Isrealite not a jew).
Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Ezechiel 36:25-27 > 25: "And I will pour upon you clean water, and you shall be cleansed from all your filthiness, and I will cleanse you from all your idols." 26: "And I will give you a new heart, and put a new spirit within you."
Note: Jesus' descent into Hell ... to instantiate water Baptism ... foretold by prophet Ezechiel (who was an Isrealite not a jew).
Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Psalm 50:7, 9 > 7: "For behold I was conceived in iniquities; and in sins did my mother conceive me." 9: "Thou shalt sprinkle me with hyssop, and I shall be cleansed: thou shalt wash me, and I shall be made whiter than snow." Note 1: Jesus' descent into Hell ... to instantiate water Baptism ... foretold by King David (who was an Isrealite not a jew). ~ ~ ~ ~
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Truth of the super-natural order:
Ignorance of God's Catholic Dogma ... which is being aggressively hidden with malice ... is not a "loophole" into Heaven.
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